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| Vecchi wrote: | The truth is that it exists a way of if obtaining maximum quality in videos of q3. And this until today the Shaolin Productions only obtained in Tricking iT2 and also in the video RTCW. For the the Shaolin does not go to open the game so early of as it obtained this feat. I personally am against this attitude. Reason this that the more the community q3 to know to develop videos of high quality, greater will be the useful life of this game that I love of passion. I personally already tried of everything making hundreds of research and tests following what the Shaolin in tutorial, and the quality of the video nor arrives close to the Tricking iT2.
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They made a tutorial to help people doing like them. I really doubt they want to keep their "secrets" for themselves. I already asked Shao for a tip and he helped me without hesitation, making screenshots, etc. I really think they are wiling to help (why would they make a tutorial if they weren't?). If you really can't do like them, and you have done everything exactely like in their tutorial, ask one of them and I am sure they will help you.
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| bacchus wrote: | | Vecchi wrote: | The truth is that it exists a way of if obtaining maximum quality in videos of q3. And this until today the Shaolin Productions only obtained in Tricking iT2 and also in the video RTCW. For the the Shaolin does not go to open the game so early of as it obtained this feat. I personally am against this attitude. Reason this that the more the community q3 to know to develop videos of high quality, greater will be the useful life of this game that I love of passion. I personally already tried of everything making hundreds of research and tests following what the Shaolin in tutorial, and the quality of the video nor arrives close to the Tricking iT2.
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They made a tutorial to help people doing like them. I really doubt they want to keep their "secrets" for themselves. I already asked Shao for a tip and he helped me without hesitation, making screenshots, etc. I really think they are wiling to help (why would they make a tutorial if they weren't?). If you really can't do like them, and you have done everything exactely like in their tutorial, ask one of them and I am sure they will help you. |
I as well as other people already we ask for some times back in fórum of shaolin more we did not get reply nor aid. She is as I said, one in the ways of if to keep q3 alive is to share everything that is knowledge. Great friend bacchus, you obtained to make videos with the quality of the Tricking iT2?
it sees topic :( :
http://forum.shaolinproductions.org/viewtopic.php?t=152&sid=0dd8348b39581a9cb87e8ff85117e9fb
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why resize your screenshots, when you can jusr capture at that same resolution, i would think that it looks about the same
shao also posted the xvid settings for iT2
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There is a huge difference in pics resized from 1600*1200 to 800*600 when compared to pics made directly in 800*600. Quake at least makes the 1600*1200 look better, dno why. Guess its the ability to draw more details with more pixels.
When resizing the program doing it uses great algorithms that dont lose all the extra info that was in 1600*1200. So some of the better detail remains. Now if you take screenies directly at 800*600, you wont get any of that extra detail that is in 1600*1200.
Right?
Just look at Own-ages pics in page2 and compare the floor detail and the blue light detail in the 1st example. No difference? I think there is a big difference. |
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hey, every1 is talking about the FSAA option, where do i find this and set it to 4x or higher? i have a ati card and i do have a prog that lets me mess about with teh settings of the card but where can i find all these options like fsaa? i would like to change it to as high as possible. thanks
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haha! no wories i found it, its on 16x! :P
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from double the resolution is what you should use.
hence:
1280x960 down to 640x480
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1600x1200 down to 800x600
make sense?
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alrighty, this is my 1st post and i've been reading up alot on this video editing stuff. There are a few things that bother me. (keep in mind, im a n00b after making 4 trial videos Lets say i've recorded a demo and ive prepared my cl_avidemo to 90 for recording a specific shot. My videocard is set to aplication preference while i was playing/demoing. If i set the FSAA to 8x and AF to 16 X, im guessing this will augement the quality of the tgas that will spit out of my demo. Queston is, if i had played at 8x, 16x, would that had made a difference beforehand? im guessing no, but i just want to make sure.
2nd, ive been hearing alot about transfering tga or bmp files to avi files. ive used bmp2avi prog in the past, and its come out some great shots, but its not the best, ive heard. many people have suggested virtual dub i beleive but yet these from what ive read do not support tga files which is what cl_avidemo spits out. So the best is...?
3rd is video editing software... ive used premeire pro, after effects videostudio and mediastudio, all do different applications and render differently, but top choice is which one? and also 1 more thing.
ive used virtual dub to encode a source avi to xvid avi, this works out great since i see the vid with no problems, yet if i try to then insert it into a video editor, lets say media studio, the avi becomes 1 long screenshot for the duration of the avi. is this normal?
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Im a noob too but i know some answers so i try to help a bit.
About aa and af... if you are using a ATI card.. bare in mind the restrictions it has.... at least my card cant handle aa with quality and too high multiplier... dunno why.. i can see when i switch the multiplier that what is the max resolution it can handle.. if anyone knows why, pls tell me... is it a card memory issue? isnt 128MB enough to do 8x aa at 1600*1200?
If i understood your question correctly... the settings you have while recording the demo are irrelevant. You can use the worst looking settings that gives you the best possible fps. Like in q3 steady 125fps. When you start taking screenies from the demo, then you need top put all in max... also from gfxcard. It doesnt keep qualityinfo when it records the demo. It only keeps stuff it needs to play the demo back like playerpositions... and the action involving them like rockets flying etc. Very handy.
virtual dub does take tgas.... load the 1st tga and it makes a sequence of them automatically.
dont know enough of the editing proggys to tell what is best.
A tip to use virtual dub. To make it a lot faster, turn off the views of pre and after video. Its a lot faster that way. so uncheck display output and input video at the options menu. |
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All right!
thx for the help mate. Much appreciated.
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im doing a movie about a clan Law.ro , all starting good, makeing short movie , put them in vegas , seems OK, render the movie and see that the image is verry low on quality, i use Divx 5.02 codec, making my movie of 700 Mb (duration 32 min). I need to know if o could do something about the codec (use another , use other settings ) , i saw a movie of 17 minutes , (350 Mb ) but the image was verry nice, high quality, if someone could help and tell exactly what u have to do pls post here , 10x
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Psh...
Assuming your original, uncompressed video is high quality...
1) Make sure youre doing a 2-pass encode
2) Learn to modulate your bitrate
3) Experiment with other codecs - DivX is great, you dont need to change it for the final render... but this will help you isolate whether the problem is with the DivX itself, or other settings in your editing
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i try X-vid Biterate : 2564 Kb/s ; quantizer matrix 1 ,3 ,2 ,5 ; single pass , and seems somthing better, still not exactly what i want , but i must say is a improve now i have some question about the bitrate , i saw movie made in bitrate 1444 ,dont like that, better 2564 , some of my friends told me to change the matrix code, i use quantizer matrix 1 3 2 5 for x vid, mada my movie pf 32 min ( 660 mb) , still not yet what i want but it looks better, i just want to know if someone knows other good settings for x vid , pls ost here , 10x
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I`m currently having problems with the xvid codec. Whenever I compress a movie with xvud the quality/size is fine, but there seems to be some skipping frames here and there. With other codecs(some standard mediaplayer/divx ) I don`t have the same problem.
Anyone knows what my problem is?
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I know what the problem is, VLC videoplayer screws it up somehow. Using divx player for both xvid compressions or divx compressions work great! Mega fluid \o/ |
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My recommendations:
- For capturing I am using 800x600 with FSAA 2xQ, doesn't slow down FPS to much and still looks good. I know that 1600x1200 with FSAA on scaled to 800x600 looks a bit better, but I don't think it is the efford worth.
- Then I use FRAPs instead of avidemo method, hardliners don't like that I know - but a fast CPU, GFX and Harddisk (using a RAID5 withh 4x200 GB HD's), and Fraps will do it perfectly fine + controlling effects and scripts in Realtime gives you a much better feeling how the result will be.
- Finally I use latest XVid Codec, default settings and a bitrate of 3000 kpbs. I have about 20-22 MB per minute, but Quality will still look great!
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| hey all, im really confused, where can i change the FSAA to 4x?? |
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thanks for darky for pointing me at this thread.. if i'd seen it earlier i would've responded earlier.
veechi, don't be so immature as to think that the world is against you because you didn't have much luck encoding things in xvid. shaoprods like to be as open as we can, and an example of that can be seen in the iT2 xvid settings were published upon request of several people here on this site as well on irc. I think anyone that's ever encoded anything will understand that whilst one set of encoding options works well for one project, they might not work so well on the next. I never claimed the settings i used would be perfect for anyone elses project, only that they appeared to work nicely for me. Also, i am not some kind of dr xvid, who will automatically help and fix the encodes of anyone that asks, although, to be fair, i have helped an awful lot of people on irc that have had problems, again, atesting to the fact i try to be helpful whenever i can.
infact, there's only ever been one bit of information that i've never ever given out, and that's my post processing settings, although you might even find the basis of those divulged in the own-age forums if you look in the right places.
as open as we are, i think it's fair to say that when people put in as much work as some of us do in to our projects, we don't want to see people blatantly rip them off and copy them effect for effect. in this regard i think you should respect the wishes of not only shaoprods, but anyone else if they are unable or unwilling to help out on other peoples' projects, especially when they do help and people don't even give them credits or greets in their finished movies. |
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| bacchus wrote: | | b1zarre wrote: | | hey all, im really confused, where can i change the FSAA to 4x?? |
It is in the properties of your graphic card. Be sure it supports FSAA (4x in this case), and go the the graphic options. |
umm, im sorry, im very newbish when it comes to graphic settings, where can i change the graphix settings? and i have a Radeon X700 Pro, will that support FSAA 4x? |
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