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PsY video! yay, downloading :D
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finally... thanks lags
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Is it worth the 30 minute download? o_o
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Good job, Lags.
Thank you for making the movie for the clan, have a great day :)
Yay, I am in it, hehe.
Sleep well. John
Vecchi (10:47 PM) : auri is ROX!!!! |
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| Really really nice movie, contains a lot of super nice runs on defrag maps i never seen before in other movies, gg ! |
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Nice mirror. 14 minutes to go.. =)
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benji
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| thank ya |
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BiggY`
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Bad bad bad movie. It's not that the content is bad, anyway i can't know, but really your third person cams were annoying, totally useless, and ruined the content.
As if we have to know what happens behind the guy.
So overall a bad movie, where you can't enjoy runs, you can only enjoy the songs if only it's your kind of music. |
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| it's not that i'd forbid opinions but you're a bit harsh :) music is a tasty thing ... and whether you like it or you don't, it fitted... and if you don't like recamming it doesn't mean that the whole movie is bad. |
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BiggY`
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The thing is that in a defrag runs movie, I want to watch the skill needed to perform the time shown, and not watching a man flying in a third person view where you understand nothing, or only seeing his face the whole run.
I like recamming because it can add a proper style to a movie, but please, don't abuse it. You have to use it only at the good times, where it can't ruin the skill needed to perform the run.
Recamming should not make the movie incomprehensible, it should ADD A STYLE, but not REMOVE the "comprehension".
Well for example, The Final Noob 3 was enjoyable to watch. |
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SiNeX
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BiggY`
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Well, I invite you to read why i'm "against" the movies i'm commenting here http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=7006 (page 2)
I hope it won't be incomprehensible. |
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SiNeX
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hmm i c. You have a point there, but you also should know that now people create movies only to show he's editing skills and make an enjoyable clip with music and wideo effects. For people like you usually there's a demos pack to watch without any effects/camms :)
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| there's a slight incoherence in the argumentation cause i highly doubt you can judge the content :) the replaying didn't confuse me at all (well in the outro, but who cares, it's an outro) ... and sure such a movie is art too... i've already seen better 'art' but this is no bad piece. |
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tonberi
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| i would like do dl but i get only 33k ==> means 3:30 hours :(((((( |
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kloffy
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I didn't think the movie was hard to follow. In fact I thought it was pretty nice. Great runs and cool sync in some places. Good Job!
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| biggy all you need are already here, you should download some older movies, in the new movies the centre is not just on the content, the best projects different from others in EDITING. so get some popcorn and watch the 9-kill quadruns in annihilation, it's pretty easy to find that movie -.- |
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vb-
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280kb/s here =o
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spookmineer
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| BiggY` wrote: | The thing is that in a defrag runs movie, I want to watch the skill needed to perform the time shown, and not watching a man flying in a third person view where you understand nothing, or only seeing his face the whole run.
I like recamming because it can add a proper style to a movie, but please, don't abuse it. You have to use it only at the good times, where it can't ruin the skill needed to perform the run.
Recamming should not make the movie incomprehensible, it should ADD A STYLE, but not REMOVE the "comprehension".
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What you want is to watch demos... This is a game media site, and we've seen all those impressive first person view frag/trick movies already. At some point, just capturing some demos and adding music to it wasn't enough to call it a movie (this is what you call a skill movie).
Some of the most enjoyable movies contain a high percentage of lucky frags. Mid airs across space maps, a grenade that explodes into someones face 3 seconds later, etc. Last man standing 3 - the outro is a great example of this but there are many more.
In movies, the content is very important, we can all spot mediocre frags. The added value to movies goes beyond to what a demo can offer. It incorporates movie effects, to add power to the content of a movie. This can be the use of synching music to the content, image effects of any kind and 3d camming.
In movies it's both actors and directors that get recognition from it. In demos, the only one to take credit is the actor (the player). In game movies, both the content (player - actor) and the director (movie maker) get the credit because they need eachother in order to entertain us.
To me, lucky frags can be guided by skill. Without skill, a lucky frag is sparse and is nothing more but just a lucky frag. With skill, a long shot or a guess that pays off is very enjoyable to watch :)
It is not about "impressive skill" but about "impressive frags", or more precise, impressive frags by editing.
Movie makers don't edit movies to lure us into believing a frag is skilled, they edit a movie to show us an impressive frag, either by luck and guided by skill, or just by luck alone.
Skilled frags and impressive editing are not opposed at all, they empower eachother (at least most of us think so), if you think that is being ignorant, so be it. Movies are not the same as demos - they used to be, movies used to be parts of demos with music added to it, but not anymore.
AFYI I never wanked off to my so called movie skills :P
Oh and there is a contest coming up so... you would still need an impressive movie maker to make a chance.
Again, I think you're better off just watching demos :/ (I know you said otherwise, but putting a few parts of demos - all in first person view to be able to watch the skill - together with music and calling it a movie is just not it). SP is one of the best production teams here (if not the best).
Can you list a few of the movies you thought were really great?
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vb-
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Not enough freestyle :_(
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Lags
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damn biggy.... if u wanna see the "skills; content..." watch demos! always 1st person is annoying... what reason to make video with only 1st person? its like demos + music! is it what u like? unrespect to u! I am sure, that u never havent played defrag at all, and u set "3" at content.... u know, it`s kinda gay :/ I think u wanna see "video" ( demos at 1st person + music and greets), not "movie"(editing, synch, etc.)
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BiggY`
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Demos are probably the best way to enjoy skill, you're probably right, but I disagree.
First, there is not only ONE way to edit a movie, but it seems that movie makers only know one way.
Speed trial is the perfect example of what I call a "bullshit movie" (sorry for the expression but really). It's supposed to "show (us) the best defragers in the world - players from [black shadows]. Impressive runs", and in fact we can only watch the movie maker's editing skill.
What's the point of putting a lot of useless effects, recamming, written comments if we can't enjoy what the movie is supposed to show us? That is to say "BEST DEFRAGERS IN HTE WORLD, and IMPRESSIVE RUNS". What do you want us to watch really.
I'm not against this kind of movies, it can add a new style, a new feeling etc, but please, don't affirm that it show us "impressive runs", "skilled frags", and stuff. THAT's what I criticize.
Now, about what I call "skilled movie". You can easily make a good editing in a "skilled movie".
For example, the simple fact of adding a clean crosshair, and not a blurry one, is something that a lot of movie makers forget. It seems that movie makers don't know how to create this kind of movies. Moreover, in this kind of movie, it's enjoyable to have some synch, a GOOD recamming, and sometimes, effects which are WELL CHOSEN.
You don't have this on a demo. That's why a "skilled movie" (so with a specific editing) will always be more enjoyable than a simple demo.
Then, a movie is easier to watch and is more accessible than demos. You don't have to be into the community to watch and appreciate it. It can also present a game, etc.
For example, I prefer watching this movie http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=4431 without ANY editing at all than this one http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=5656 without any crosshair, an huge shaft effect, and a bad color correction (too bright etc).
Now, in trick movies it's the same. Of course you need a lot of recamming to create a style, but let us understand what happens please. Tricking iT2 is the perfect example of a movie with 14053504 useless effects, bad recamming, etc, whereas Live to Fly (http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=2885) succeeded in imposing its own style, and permit us to appreciate the skill needed to perform the tricks shown.
edit: @ Lags: Like i said, I can't judge the content (the skill for me) if the editing does not permit me to watch it, so what do you want me to vote? 10? 1? Even if the best defragers were in this movie, I don't see what they are doing, so.
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